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Way back in January, I signed up for Duolingo, a free language-teaching app, to do some French revision. I have a French GSCE, 'C' grade, but calling it rusty would be to imply that any iron content was present in the first place. Even at the time, I have no idea how I passed.
So, revision. I ran into the same problems I faced before: spelling in French is about as complicated as English, without the benefit of learning it as a child; and the fucking gender. I have problems with gender in language, too.
I decided to give Spanish a go over the summer. I made pretty good progress, even if I do say so myself. The spelling is pretty regular (although stuff like the b/v distinction still sometimes gets me), and the even genders are a bit more sensible, because of -a -o endings at least provide a default rule you can learn exceptions to. (It helps that "el" and "la" are far more distinct than "le" and "la").
I have got pretty far! Level 11, with just a few more modules to go. The problem is, it's not really teaching me Spanish. It's teaching me how to pass Duolingo Spanish tests. I'm picking up a fair bit of Spanish along the way, but there are various unfortunate tricks that I've spotted (when you get presented with words to form a sentence, the first one is going to be the one with a capital letter, right). So I kind of stalled.
HOWEVER, it turns out there is a thing called "adult education" still, despite the government's best intentions. I signed up with a "Beginners B" Spanish course. It seems to be about the right level for me - I would have sailed through the absolute basics course - but I'm just not fluent enough to do much more. There have been a couple of gotchas. I need to learn my Spanish alphabet. And the numbers. Duolingo wasn't teaching the alphabet at all; and not teaching the numbers systemically.
Still, good fun, going to keep plugging away at it. Very weird to be in a classroom environment after so long. I swear I am not doing this just because I got into Community. Honest.
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So, revision. I ran into the same problems I faced before: spelling in French is about as complicated as English, without the benefit of learning it as a child; and the fucking gender. I have problems with gender in language, too.
I decided to give Spanish a go over the summer. I made pretty good progress, even if I do say so myself. The spelling is pretty regular (although stuff like the b/v distinction still sometimes gets me), and the even genders are a bit more sensible, because of -a -o endings at least provide a default rule you can learn exceptions to. (It helps that "el" and "la" are far more distinct than "le" and "la").
I have got pretty far! Level 11, with just a few more modules to go. The problem is, it's not really teaching me Spanish. It's teaching me how to pass Duolingo Spanish tests. I'm picking up a fair bit of Spanish along the way, but there are various unfortunate tricks that I've spotted (when you get presented with words to form a sentence, the first one is going to be the one with a capital letter, right). So I kind of stalled.
HOWEVER, it turns out there is a thing called "adult education" still, despite the government's best intentions. I signed up with a "Beginners B" Spanish course. It seems to be about the right level for me - I would have sailed through the absolute basics course - but I'm just not fluent enough to do much more. There have been a couple of gotchas. I need to learn my Spanish alphabet. And the numbers. Duolingo wasn't teaching the alphabet at all; and not teaching the numbers systemically.
Still, good fun, going to keep plugging away at it. Very weird to be in a classroom environment after so long. I swear I am not doing this just because I got into Community. Honest.
This entry was originally posted at http://morwen.dreamwidth.org/434043.html. Please comment there using OpenID.
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Date: 2014-11-07 05:41 pm (UTC)I didn't do Spanish classes for that long, as I mostly wanted to just know a bit for when I visited a friend in Spain.
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Date: 2014-11-13 10:11 am (UTC)So, I have a copy of the first WicDiv trade signed to you to drop off at some point, when would be good?
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Date: 2014-11-13 11:15 am (UTC)Ummmmmm idk. When are you next in London?
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Date: 2014-11-14 12:42 am (UTC)Probably Tuesday, I have a Doctor Who pub quiz I want to go to...Apparently I am the type of idiot who forgets that she has Spanish lessons on Tuesdays now.
I am definitely going to be in London next weekend - I have parties on the 21st and 22nd and am, oh my god, I am actually writing this, am shooting a short film on the 22nd.
I will probably be in London midweek at some point, if only because I am physically having difficulty keeping away.
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Date: 2014-11-14 08:34 am (UTC)ALSO SHORT FILM SO COOL! You will have to tell me about that :) And great, okay, I will get back to you re: 21st/22nd when I get my work schedule for next week. See you soon!
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Date: 2014-11-14 01:35 pm (UTC)Cool, let me know...
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Date: 2014-11-19 11:09 pm (UTC)aaand the 23rd? or possibly the 25th? ;-D
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