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[abigailbrady]

Had a note from underlying-landlord through door today. The site is being redeveloped and I will need to find somewhere else to live by the end of December 2008. This is a shame, because I was actually quite liking it here.


I will have to think about this for a bit. I found the idea of buying somewhere to live at what was hopefully going to be the top of the market absurd; but house prices are starting to fall already in London, and Waltham Forest looks really quite affordable (as well as being handy for work and for friends). But I'd be surprised if they bottomed out by December; and I don't want to lose out on a bear market. I had been saying that I would see how the market looks like towards the end of the year and decide then; I guess this is still the plan.

Suggestions anyone?


Update: Actually, looking at the other pieces of paper more carefully, they in fact want me out by September the 17th. Confusing. Will phone.

Comments

[liv]

Yes, but if n > 150, this is an irrelevant calculation.

[fluffymark]

I don't know why people think of renting as somehow "lost money". In that way of thinking, paying the interest part of a mortgage is also "lost money". Also, even when you've got equity in the property or even finally own it outright, the equity in the house doesn't earn interest as it would if it was in the bank, so that's also "lost money" from owning a house.

For example, I've enough money that the interest on it more than covers my rent, quite easily, so I gain overall every month. But that money would only buy half a house, so if I did buy, I'd have to pay lots every month.

Owning property is way more expensive than renting, at present. And thats before you even start considering stamp duty, other fees, lease payments and repairs and maintenance. Or falling house prices.

[plexq.livejournal.com]

Yes - but you have to figure into the calculation how much your property value increases which is the analogue of the interest that your bank pays you. Here in the US property prices have taken a dip overall, but our house value has more than doubled in 10 years which seems like a pretty good investment.

As for the cost of owning - it certainly is more expensive from that point of view. I haven't sat down to calculate how much we have to pay out a month to cover the cost of yard updates, termite control, insect control, basic repairs and appliances, but I don't think it's all that bad. You get whacked every once in awhile with a big bill like needing a new roof, but you only have to do that once every 10-20 years depending on the roof you buy, so averaged out it's not so bad.

[abigailb.livejournal.com]

They've gone up here consistently in the UK the last 10 years, so much that I would describe it as a bubble. The credit crunch has started to deflate it. They have gone absolutely absurd and nobody can afford anything any more. The not particularly nice 2-bedroom semi I was living in in Tottenham in late 2006 sold for £313,000 in October! (It had been bought for £100,000 in January 2000). Lunacy!

[shermarama]

"the equity in the house doesn't earn interest as it would if it was in the bank"

I inherited some money in 1997 and I bought a flat with it, with the help of a small mortgage. It's now worth at least three times what I'd have if I'd put the money in the bank and not touched it for 11 years, despite interest payments and all the rest. The last eleven years have been a bit unusual, though.